tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926331686958472031.post5900193886274398601..comments2023-05-10T11:14:50.324-04:00Comments on PolitiConn: The Incoherence of Occupy Wall StreetTerry Cowgillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09879361872421002161noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926331686958472031.post-34820387967614560122011-10-14T16:36:08.138-04:002011-10-14T16:36:08.138-04:00No, I don't know exactly what the demands are....No, I don't know exactly what the demands are. That's why I asked. You ought to join their team, Fred. As vague as you are, you've still been more specific than any of the OWS types that I've seen.<br /><br />As for bailing out the investors, I don't know about you, but I have a pension plan that's tied directly to the health of the market. The notion that the stock market only serves the super-rich is tres passe.<br /><br />I would agree that the bailouts served to make the world safe for Goldman-Sachs. But the value of some of the CREF stocks in my pension portfolio has increased in part because of mergers that are facilitated by investment banks like GS. <br /><br />As much as I hated bailing out AIG and GS, we really had to save the pigs to save ourselves.Terry Cowgillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879361872421002161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926331686958472031.post-50719843866714800442011-10-14T16:02:39.518-04:002011-10-14T16:02:39.518-04:00I think you know exactly what a "list of dema...I think you know exactly what a "list of demands" would be: raise taxes on the fabulously wealthy; stimulate the economy; bail out the states, schools, and social services instead of the banks, corporations, and investors; and stop making the 99% "sacrifice" for the sake of the wealthy.Buzztreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00556126018133552905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926331686958472031.post-83827594005093436382011-10-14T13:01:11.105-04:002011-10-14T13:01:11.105-04:00Those are nice platitudes, but how about a list of...Those are nice platitudes, but how about a list of demands to make it happen? Otherwise it's just dreaming in the form of a protest.Terry Cowgillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879361872421002161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926331686958472031.post-32999303732673514852011-10-14T12:59:28.644-04:002011-10-14T12:59:28.644-04:00I think what they want is patently obvious: econom...I think what they want is patently obvious: economic equity, fairness, and justice.Buzztreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00556126018133552905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926331686958472031.post-85077888275872799962011-10-13T18:14:07.915-04:002011-10-13T18:14:07.915-04:00Haha! You don't buy the OWS line that the medi...Haha! You don't buy the OWS line that the media asking what their demands are is some sort of trap? If you're protesting, then it's perfectly reasonable to ask what you want, don't you think?Terry Cowgillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879361872421002161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926331686958472031.post-54677239977233124062011-10-13T17:59:58.770-04:002011-10-13T17:59:58.770-04:00Anonymous is spot-on with his/her comment. I woul...Anonymous is spot-on with his/her comment. I would just add that the OWC people have issued a set of demands. It's true that there are many different colors of this rainbow, some of them self-interested, but as Anonymous says, the power of the 1% and the corporations over the rest of us is so pervasive and takes so many different forms that it would be a near-impossible task to frame an ideally cohesive response. Besides, it is the corporate media (and their friend Terry) who are demanding the demands to begin with. <br /><br />How about the fact that a significant number of people are joining together and taking a stance against the abuses of the system in the first place? I'd say that's a significant achievement, and not all that different from what has occurred in the Middle East, Greece, and elsewhere. Of course it is people's self-interest that drives them to protest. There's nothing wrong with that.Buzztreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00556126018133552905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-926331686958472031.post-30853580878521164292011-10-13T16:35:46.043-04:002011-10-13T16:35:46.043-04:00Of course OWS is incoherent. They are a diverse gr...Of course OWS is incoherent. They are a diverse group, unified by their outrage against the obscene excesses of corporate/bank greed and excess and the government complicity that has brought the country to it's knees. They are incoherent because the extent of the corporate fraud is mind-boggling - where does one start?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com